Greater, Stronger, Wiser? Two Overthinking Musicians

By Hannah Pawson and Philippa Walusimbi

Hannah and Philippa chat about life, music and the downsides of an external monologue. Both musicians and activists, they reflect on our current times and what this means for creative people, overthinkers and humans in general.

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Greater, Stronger, Wiser? Two Overthinking MusiciansAug 11, 2020

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Thank you so much for listening over these weeks! Peace and love and strength to you all xxx

Follow Philippa:

Instagram @philippazawe

Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe

Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com

Follow Hannah:

Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic

Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1

Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com

Music is by Hannah Pawson

Aug 11, 202001:50

Borders and boats in the night - Interview with Milly Pawson

This week we chat to Hannah's sister Milly about Europe's treatment of refugees and how this intersects with racist policies.

Just a note (because we missed an important edit) - at one point, Milly mentions that white people would not receive the same violent treatment from police as people of colour do in the States, on Europe's borders and in other places. To clarify, we are aware that of course white people can and do experience this kind of treatment, for example white BLM protesters in the States - however, this kind of violence does not occur on anywhere near the scale at which people of colour experience police brutality across many countries; her point was drawing awareness to the general trends, rather than the outliers.

Resources:

Our petition to keep family reunion here

Refugee council report here

Aegean Boat Report here

UN Poverty Report here

The Good Immigrant book

Follow the Congo Tree here

Watch the film 'Lion' – it’s great

Safe Passage charity here

Hostile environment Policy here

Follow Milly:

Twitter @melissa_pawson

Website: www.melissapawson.com

Follow Milly’s cat: Instagram @tunamajnouna

Follow Philippa:

Instagram @philippazawe

Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe

Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com

Follow Hannah:

Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic

Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1

Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com

Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.

Jul 31, 202001:22:57

Listen, lament, LEGISLATE

This episode was recorded in the week after George Floyd’s death, and the week that J.K Rowling published her letter. We had a lot to debrief on.

We go on a #thoughttrain to chat about careering, trans rights, periods and sex.

Books -

Invisible Women: Exploring Data Bias in a World Made For Men, Caroline Criado Perez

Animal, Sara Pascoe

Pill and Depression https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/03/pill-linked-depression-doctors-hormonal-contraceptives https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/2552796

As always you can find us here:

Follow Philippa:

Instagram @philippazawe Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com

Follow Hannah:

Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com

Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.

Jul 24, 202001:31:24

BLM reflections

We recorded this episode on the week that George Floyd was murdered. It's interesting to look back on this week and how the shock of the event is reflected back in the rawness of our feelings and discussions.

Resources:

Compensation for former slave owners: link to Independent article here and Guardian article here

Books:

1. Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race

2. Brit(ish)

3. We Need To Talk About Race

4. The Good Immigrant

5. Black and British, A Forgotten History (the BBC series on this is also really great)

Podcasts:

1. About Race with Reni Eddo Lodge

2. Have you Heard George's Podcast?

3. Reality Daily - episode 55 (for Christian listeners)

Follow Philippa:

Instagram @philippazawe Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com

Follow Hannah:

Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com

Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.

Jul 17, 202001:16:49

Empathy - #trainlife #queenlife

Chatting about empathy and reflecting on Alain de Botton and Ayishat Akanbi's Unscripted Talk. Found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZU7mumpY4U

Sex Power Money (book) - Sara Pascoe

Counselling for Toads - Robert de Board

FYI we recorded each podcast about 6 weeks prior to the release date so chats on COVID are verrryyy out of date.

Follow Philippa:

Instagram @philippazawe Facebook: facebook.com/PhilippaZawe Bandcamp: philippazawe.bandcamp.com

Follow Hannah:

Instagram @rainydaywomanmusic Facebook: facebook/rainydaywoman1 Bandcamp: rainydaywoman.bandcamp.com

Music is by Philippa Zawe, Hannah Pawson and Gabriel Wynne.

Jul 10, 202001:44:02

Religion – Teaching an atheist about what we can learn from Christianity

In this episode we talk about religion. It was really interesting to have these chats between an atheist and a Christian, with similar experiences of religion but very different viewpoints. Let us know your thoughts!